Coffee Talk #7: PS3 vs. Xbox 360 — The Race to #2

Posted on October 20th, by raymond padilla in Coffee Talk, Console Wars, PS3, Today's Specials, Videogames, Xbox 360. 182 comments

Welcome to Coffee Talk! Let’s start off the day by discussing whatever is on your (nerd chic) mind. Every morning I’ll kick off a discussion and I’m counting on you to participate in it. If you’re not feelin’ my topic, feel free to start a chat with your fellow readers and see where it takes you. Whether you’re talking about videogames, Joe Girardi’s interesting bullpen management, the sexy Motorola Droid for Verizon, or what games you’ll be buying this week, Coffee Talk is the place to do it.

By now, most of you will have had time to think about the September 2009 NPD Group console sales figures. Sony did very well for itself, selling loads of systems thanks to the PS3 price cut and the introduction of the PlayStation 3 Slim. While the Nintendo Wii will end up being the sales winner this console generation (barring some catastrophe like Romulans attacking Earth to steal every Wii on the planet), some feel that second place is up for grabs.

PS3 vs Xbox 360 Coffee Talk #7: PS3 vs. Xbox 360 The Race to #2

Xbots will argue that the 360 has way too big a lead in North America. The company will continue to sell its exclusives and sell more third-party games thanks to a larger installed base. Improvements to Xbox Live will cement the console’s position of having the best online console-gaming experience.

Members of the Sony Defense Force will point out that this is a marathon, not a sprint. This console generation is far from over and Sony has superior first-party games lined up for 2010. With the console’s price cut, the PS3′s capabilities — Blu-ray playback, built-in Wifi, etc. — clearly make it a better value than the 360. With better games and better hardware that’s now at a competitive price, it’s only a matter of time until the PS3 surpasses the Xbox 360.

Certainly there are still too many variables, too many years, and too many unannounced games that will shape the remaining years of this generation, but it’s still fun to play analyst. So pretend for a few minutes that you’re Wedbush Morgan’s Michael Pachter or EEDAR’s Jesse Divnich. I want to know which console you think will end up grabbing the silver medal this console generation. Do you think it’ll be Microsoft’s Xbox 360 or Sony’s PlayStation 3? Pick a side and state your case (please!).

On a side note, it feels liberating to be able to throw around the terms Sony Defense Force and Xbot again.

Coffee Talk Console Wars PS3 Videogames Xbox 360

Shockwave562

@RROD, I try to imagine sometimes what would have happened if MS had stuck the HD-DVD inside the 360 in the first place. even though Bluray has more storage the format war might have been a little closer and could have slid in the direction of dvd only because of the large install base of 360s.

I will agree some 3rd party games might become exclusives for that reason. I know that if GTA5 were coming out and I could buy it on 3 discs on Xbox or 1 disc on PS3 I'd definitely go PS3. especially since it is such a great single player experience.

I don't know what plans MS has for the next Xbox but I think they do need to consider a higher capacity storage than DVD9
RRODisHere

@Shockwave

In M$'s defense, Blu-Ray or HD-DVD was not ready when M$ was making the Xbox 360(nor was the Xbox for that matter). They were more concerned with beating Sony to the punch and have paid the first price for that if you know what I mean and now they will pay a second price for that with the storage barrier. That forced Sony to release the PS3 before they wanted to, hence the short list of launch titles and lackluster launch PSN service.
rbee90

@RROD

its brutaly hard…but its the good kinda hard,not the suckish kinda hard…go get it and add me up in psn arbsnotdead
Smartguy

@RROD

Yeah, it is hard…but the hard part is that the game is frustrating at times because of dumb mistakes by you. I got killed by some ET looking mob the other day and just turned the machine off. I had been running around the level for 45 minutes and had to redo all of it. Gratifying when you beat something though. Just a hardcore game. Death has a serious consequence in this game.
Shockwave562

@RROD,

Agreed. at the end of the day the console that is released more recently is going to have a lot more technology behind it. being first doesn't make you the best.

Same thing happened last gen, coming in late to the game MS had the ability to beat out the PS3 in specs but it certainly didn't help the Xbox compete with PS2 sales.
RRODisHere

@rbee90 & Smartguy

Cool. Looking forward to it. As long as it's not cheap hard like Ninja Gaiden where enemies fly in off camera and you never saw it coming.
Shockwave562

@smartguy. to my understanding the game gets harder each time you die correct? I don't know if I'd like that. I don't want to call myself a P##@& gamer or anything because on a good game I do like to play through it on hard after a normal run.

I just hate it when I get stuck on one part and die 35 times trying to pass one thing. that's the kind of hard I hate in a video game. I get frustrated really easily with games like that.

Also, I don't like making 15 to 20 minutes progress, or even an hour for that matter all to have it come to a close with dying. I hate having to start waaaay back when I die
Smartguy

@RROD

Not a cheap hard no. You cause your deaths really. Just think of it as not paying attention to the environment, pulling mobs you shouldn't or just getting owned one on one.
Smartguy

@shockwave

Yeah, it supposedly gets harder based on world orientation. I haven't gotten that deep into it for that to be an issue. Either that or I am a balanced orientation. If you want a cheap way to cheese out of the dying penalty….at the instant the killing blow hits, quit the game. That way it will load you back in the save right before you died. The game saves all the time.

To recap the cheese: killing blow –> PS button –> QUIT GAME option. (fast)
Shockwave562

haha, well if it saves frequently I wouldn't mind so much. I like a challenge as much as the next guy but I have too much ADD to keep playing the same part over and over if I can't pass it. sometimes I find it helps just to shut it off and come back the next day though.
Nightshade386

Sorry about the triple post earlier. I was having some PC issues I believe….
N8R

@ off topic rant

The worst thing about having kids is having to put up with "The Wiggles".

I'm down for how they get kids interested in music and all… but MY GOD! Someone is going to pay for all the times I've had "Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, cockle-doodle-doo" stuck in my head.

Look out Australia.
Shockwave562

haha N8R, while I don't know the wiggles I'm picturing something like the Kangaroo song from the Adam Sandler movie Big Daddy
N8R

@ Shockwave

The Wiggles put the Kangaroo song to shame.
Shockwave562

@N8R, haha, I don't want to know

in the meantime you can enjoy this telletubbie fail courtesy of failblog

http://failblog.org/2009/07/14/teletubbies-fail/

@RROD – I know you don't always like IGN but they really liked Ratchet and Clank. full article here

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/103/1036656p1.html
RRODisHere

@Shockwave

Yeah, I saw that. It's not that I don't like IGN, it's just that they give every game with a little hype behind it a 9 or above.
http://rpad.tv raymond padilla

@RRODisHere And their rating scale is stupid.
Smartguy

@shockwave

no, you quit before it saves so you can just load back in real quick before you got killed and you don't have to run back.
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

I like to see Sony makes a profit and not to come up short. They work hard to have blu-ray technology, and they work hard to make a slim with a price range to match the other console. There games are by far the best that I have seen and play. I'm so into sony that I even got the pspgo to support them hehe…. I am waiting for a psp that can play ps2 games…>!!! Than Sony will pull ahead for sure!
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

Microsoft is just a big giant company that needs to be taken down. I mean all they got is money! They bought out all of exclusive games that was made for Sony ps2 only now being made for the 360..Charging people for online games and now they are planing on bumping up the price….IDK Even if Microsoft takes 3rd they wont be hurt by it… hehe They make soo much money on Halo(backbone360)….But than again I still don't see whats soo good about that game:/ I play Halo1,Halo3 and some odst over at my friends house….He looks like a zombie playing that game O.O Maybe I'm just not into Halo games….I like deep story line and a good end like uncharted, ratchet and clank, killzone…..I just know one thing Microsoft needs to make better hardware, and redesign there 360. I would never waist my money on a console and worry about or if I should put a fan next to it.
Thundercracker

where is n8r?

oh wait, busy making another music video

im kidding of course, but if i wasnt, it might look like this….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKO9h-gG4Qg
Thundercracker

@raymond

watch that god damn video
N8R

@ Snipe

What kind of computer are you using to type on here… out of curiosity?
Thundercracker

@everyone

i dont mean to spam, but holy crap, this is magic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKO9h-gG4Qg
Arguello

@snipe2kill

Xbox has some great games as well and don't forget, Bioshock was at one time only on the 360. To fully enjoy gaming you need to have both, maybe even all three. I play both my 360 and PS3. And my Wii is there in case I ever want to do something that feels even remotely close to exercise. I do understand that Microsoft does get a little money hungry, it doesn't mean that they pass over industry changing games to come out with another Halo. Yeah, they will ride halo until the wheels fall off. But its because MC is an icon now, I mean think about it. If you had to paint the Last Supper using video game icons, He would probably be in it.
Thundercracker

lol@fasten your beltseats
Arguello

@thundercracker

That's internet gold right there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKO9h-gG4Qg N8R

@ Thundercracker

5… 4… 3… 1
Thundercracker

ok, back to gaming related topics

i got legends of wrestlemania yesterday

mind you i paid 20 bucks

i love that game, the original entrance music alone was worth the price of admission. I suggest anyone who can get that game for 20 bucks go pick it up

although ive had hulk hogans entrance music stuck in my head for a solid 18 hours….

another awesome thing about it is that you can upload your own music to use as entrance themes.

ok, so i took the undertaker, gave him the same entrance, with no stadium lighting and lots of smoke…and of course changed the music to the sanford and son theme

im priceless
Thundercracker

its better to have "i am a real american" stuck in my head than the fresh beat band

damn you nick jr!!!!!
Arguello

I think every time Air Force One lands it need to play that song as loud as possible.
Thundercracker

a special thanks to the person who posted "the real karate kid " video up there

although i posted it in my fantasy football league and now the link doesnt work
Arguello

::Pat Morita looks down from above, and nods in approval::

I just checked the link should be working fine.
Thundercracker

must have put it down wrong, thanks
Thundercracker

i was genuinely upset upon learning of the death of pat morita
Thundercracker

ok, im talking to myself here, ill see you guys tomorrow
Arguello

I don't no of a single person who didn't shed at least one tear for the Great man known as Mr. Morita.
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

LOL you aren't talking to yourself Thundercracker… I'm just not replying hehe
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

I7 chip, trichannel memory, dual internet, 4870 ati video card 1gig, 80gig solid state hard drive, 1t seta hard drive, running windows 7 64bit …. Why N8R?
N8R

@ Snipe

I just find it ironic that you're using Windows to say MS needs to be put down.

They are a huge money making corporation… and you support them as well.
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

There no need for a 360 when I can dl those games on pc for free. Now if I wasn't able to play all those games for free than I would think of buying the system.
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

Yes but if you remember they screw them up with VISTA windows 7 should be free. Mine is free because i'm a server admin for my company!
N8R

You're still shooting yourself in the foot by supporting the install base. If they did indeed get "put down"… then what would you do?
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

I support anything that is Legit and is done correctly…. Windows7 is a big improvement but benchmark wise it still side by side with windowsxp, Vista was a waist of money for anyone that bought it. Microsoft new about the hardware issue before xbox came out. Sony I would have to admit they make the best electronics and last. That why I bought a ps3 for 600 back than and still works
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

Being that microsoft have a big head they are bring product that are no good reaping people off. If you pay 200 dollar for a vista you are being reap off…. If you have to turn your xbox360 in 1-2 x you are being reap off. Than they bring out the elite and still have the issue that just show to me they don't care too much… You can't support a product that isnt done correctly
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

Let just say you go to a restaurant that you love every week. The restaurant are making big time money so they start going cheap on the quality of there food. Would you still go back there?
Smartguy

you support legit but you just said you pirate games. a bit of a contradiction unless i am misunderstanding you.
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

I can tell you that my ps3 will last me for 10years just like my ps1, and ps2, and my very first psp that still go strong. Good solid product is what everyone should want to support. Windows 7 is solid and I support that. There Microsoft office I support that but not internet explorer I don't support that.
N8R

I can't argue with your logic. I'm just saying that MS is like that across the board in ALL their products.

All I said is that I find it ironic that you're using an MS product to bash them at the same time.

Windows7… let's wait and see the inevitable flaws. XP is just their best to date. It has it's flaws too.
Xsnipe2killg4feedX

I like to play 360 games a lot of them are good but I just wont support the console itself. If I have a lot of money where I can buy all the games I want than yes I wouldn't have to. How many people dl music online for free? I knows lots…. ADOBE photoshope is what expensive I wish I can support it but I can not so I dl it for free :) But I support by telling people how good it is…

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